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Thyromine

Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:22:09 AM
If you are taking synthyroid-can you take thyromine simultaneously

Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:15:06 PM
i wanna know the same question,if thyromine safe and what r the sideeffects
Posted: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:19:11 PM
I would also like to know how much of each ingredient is in Thyromine (i.e., how many mgs of Adrenal & Thyroid glandular powder, ginger, guggulipid, nori, piper longum, and L-Tyrosine?). And does the thyroid powder contain thyroxine? I can't find the info anywhere and there doesn't seem to be a 1-800 number to call... Also, I've heard that you're not supposed to take acetaminophen when you're taking guggulipid (or at the very least you should decrease the dosage) as guggulipid makes acetaminophen much more potent. Thanks for any help with these questions!
Posted: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:26:49 PM
Hi Lucy
You probably won't get the exact quantity of each ingredient from most manufacturers since many have proprietary issues and wouldn't want other manufacturers using their blend. But most brands of Thyromine have a similar blend from specific herbs such as ginger, guglipid, piper longum, along with L-Tyrosine (an amino acid), Nori, and adrenal & thyroid glandular extracts from bovine sources. It should not contain Thyroxine, which is a pharmaceutical derivative of L-Tyrosine.

Most of these ingredients have been used by many people without any side effects but it is always advisable to seek the advice of your healthcare provider especially if you are taking thyroid medication or other medications on a regular basis.

Also, people taking MOA inhibitors should not take L-tyrosine.

Hope this helps
DK Mayers
Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:44:57 PM
Thanks for responding, D.K.! I have been an avid student and user of natural products and under the care of naturopaths as my primary healthcare provider for twenty years now, and I have never encountered a natural health care supplement that did not list the amounts of the ingredients enclosed. If something is going to affect your health, you need to know what and how much you're taking.

I am not currently on thyroid or any other medication but I think it's completely irresponsible when looking out for one's health to just take someone's word for something (I'm referring to the manufacturers/distributors) that you're going to ingest. Taking responsibility for one's health does not mean trusting a stranger on the internet.

For instance, guggul is contraindicated with acetaminophen as it makes the acetaminophen react more potently in your system. So people need to know how much guggulipid is in a product if they take any acetaminophen. A little would be okay - a lot, not so much. Also, guggul stimulates the menstrual cycle so is best avoided by those with pelvic inflammatory disease or menorrhagia. It should never be used in cases of hyperthyroidism. In larger amounts it can cause gastrointestinal distress. Sometimes it causes a rash. And it reduces the bioavailability of blood pressure drugs diltiazem and proprannolol as well as the cancer drug cyclophosphamide. And that's just guggul... Does that apply to anyone out there who is taking or thinking of taking Thyromine?

Also, I was taking another thyroid glandular that has since been discontinued - I knew what dosage was right for me so if I knew how much was in the Thyromine, I would know whether I should take one or two Thyromine a day. And L-Tyrosine is quite a potent substance with its own side-effects.

Not knowing how much you're ingesting of any ingreident in a supplement is just plain irresponsible and potentially harmful to one's health. And if the product is "thyroxine-free" it should say so on the bottle, just like all the other thyroid glandular supplements I've ever seen on the market.

Finally, what would any health professional say if you told them you were going to take a supplement that would affect your endocrine system but you had no idea how much of each ingredient was in the product? I'd venture to say "zero". When I told my naturopathic doctor about this situation, she concurred that credible companies list all ingredients and amounts on the container.

So what I want to know is: Is there anyone out there who knows the amounts of the ingredients in Thyromine - and whether Thyromine contains thyroxine? I just can't believe that all these people would be ingesting a supplement without having this information! It could very well be an excellent product but when it comes to health, I believe that full disclosure as far as ingredients and amounts go trumps proprietary issues on both ethical and legal levels.

Lucy
Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:06:37 AM
I just found the following post about Thyromine on the messageboard of www.sparkpeople.com: "This product does not feature an itemized label with the amounts of ingredients and a search on the internet didn't provide me with one. I bought it hoping for a natural source of thyroid substance since that ingredient is listed but when it arrived, I found out there is only 1 mg. of that in it. LOther than that, you get 200 mg of L-Tyrosine, which is helpful, but you could buy that much cheaper in any health food store. For people with low thyroid, it's almost a placebo. On the bottle, there is also no telephone number or address for the company or the distributor. It could be a [...]. At any rate, don't waste your money. (author gave it one star)". Any comments?

Also, has anyone tried "TG Metabolizer" from "Creation's Garden"? It's supposedly manufactured by the same person who created Thyromine...

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